I Can't Help Myself, Please Forgive Me


Today I had an interesting experience.  One of the college secretaries forwarded to me an email that had been sent to two of our ‘generic’ college addresses but addressed to my dad, our pastor.  It’s common for me to answer questions that come indirectly to us, so I began to read the question.  As I did, I realized this was one of those…

Roger Voegtlin,

You profess to believe, preach, and/or teach the word of God.
According to I John 4:1 there are many false prophets gone out into the world,
so we are commanded by God to try the spirits.
Therefore, you are being tried to see whether or not you are of God:

Do you confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh according to I John 4:2?

I admonish you to do so immediately.
A non answer is a non confession.

What is your confession?

I will give you my confession as if you had asked me:

I confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

**IMPORTANT** –> READ I John 4:1-3 (KJV) before making a confession.
I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many
false prophets are gone
out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come
in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof
ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

You must make a good confession immediately before the LORD of the exact KJV wording;
not “has come” or “came” or a doctrinal explanation or testimony or in quotes or anything else …
just a pure, simple confession before the LORD that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

What is your confession?

I await your swift reply – A non answer is a non confession.

Eric Schiller
I confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
GOD BLESS THE JEWS/ISRAEL!
“Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion:  build thou the walls of Jerusalem.” Psalm 51:18

So I went to one of the other pastors and asked him what he thought we should do.  As soon as we dismiss the question, it might turn out to be legitimate and we’ve offended someone.  If we try to answer it we’ll answer it the wrong way, and then be in all kinds of trouble.

Well I noticed that Eric had emphasized twice that the confession should be “before the Lord” and so I figured if I let him know that I had made my confession “before the Lord” maybe that would suffice.  So I replied to his message with no words in the body of the message.  I just stated in the subject that I had made my confession BEFORE THE LORD.

Right before our evening service I received his/their reply: (I’m going to break his reply up so that I can make some comments).

Antichrist Jeff Voegtlin,

The LORD rebuke thee and all those with you!
I have nothing more to do with you!

We only just “met” you this morning!!!

UNSUBSCRIBE – CEASE AND DESIST!

I thought we would be unsubscribing from your mailings.  We are to cease and desist?  You started it!

You have NOT made a good confession. (I John 4:1-3);
AND thereby,
You mock and blaspheme the LORD God of Israel, His words,
and a good confession.

Therefore,

I know who you are.
You are a devil, an antichrist, and a deceiver with
the spirit of antichrist! (I John 4:3, II John 7)

I do NOT bid you God speed.

– IF you are a Jew: I have nothing more to do with you at this time;
and NONE of the following is for you.

Well, I’m not, so is ALL the following for me?

– If you are a Gentile dog (ALL non-Jews) then the
following applies to you:

I pray that the LORD God of Israel will hasten your destruction & torment,
and damn you and all those with you before the time;
and,
that He will have great mercy on me
and protect me for Jesus’ sake alone.

May the LORD
Damn you for being rebellious against our Saviour, The Lord Jesus Christ, and
Damn you for not being on His side, and
Damn you for hating his words, and
Damn you for not keeping his commandments, and
Damn you for your pride against His people, Israel, and
Damn you for your blasphemies, and
Damn you for your mockings, and
Damn you for your rebellion, and
Damn you for your pride, and
Damn you, for your failed confession(s).

Wow.

I praise God for His Vengeance and for that day when you will burn
forever and ever in the fire that never shall be quenched:
where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched where there shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

WOW.

**LEGAL NOTICE** (Secular and Spiritual)
Leave me alone – CEASE and DESIST.

We are to leave YOU alone?  We don’t even know who you are.  We never did anything to you.  You asked us a question.  Are you loony?

I am a Bible-Believer and you are not.

Pray to any god and practice any religion you like;
I do not care;
BUT,
your god is not my God, nor is your religion my religion; and,
you cannot practice your religion with me!

I do not like you.

My feelings are hurt!

I hate you; so, stay away from me.

I don’t even know where you are, but TRUST ME, I’m not lookin’ either.

Do not write me, call us, pray for me, or even THINK of me again.

I think we’re getting somewhere now.  You notice there’s one and more than one at the same time–“write me, call us….  Oh, and to THINK of you.  I wasn’t until YOU/YE sent me an email this morning!

If you contact me again, we will bring your name(s) before the LORD and pray these things anew.

Did you catch that again?  “contact me, we will”  hmmm.

I have NOTHING more to do with you until the day that we witness the
Creator, the LORD God of Israel, the Maker of heaven and earth, cast you
into the Lake of Fire for ever and ever on that terrible day of judgment.

May the LORD damn you to Hell!!

Eric Schiller

schiller1611@gmail.com — in case you wanted to ask him to make a good confession BEFORE THE LORD

I confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

GOD BLESS THE JEWS/ISRAEL!

“Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight” Psalm 144:1

“If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.” I Corinthians 16:22

Well folks, I know this is nothing really new.  Every place has theirs…. Eric is just ours for the day!

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22 Comments

  1. Oh my… someone’s off their happy pills. Why is it that the real crazies claim to be “Bible Believers”?

  2. I’ve seen this before. It comes from a “pastor” in Gainesville named Aaron Samples. He is an ex-confederate with Peter Ruckman who now believes Ruckman is a devil, for the same reason he called you one. However, to my knowledge he shares Ruckman’s beliefs on the KJV.

    Once you start the illogical (and unbiblical) lunacy that Ruckman promotes, there is no end.

  3. lol so much for judging righteous judgments. If he IS a Christian, it sounds like he’s going to be mighty surprised to see you in heaven some day 🙂

  4. Wow! I think he needs to listen to your message on anger. Just be sure to send it anonymously.

  5. Thank you for posting this. I had exactly the same response as you all did: Do I answer? Is this legit? What if it is and I don’t answer?
    I had felt all along that the messages were canned spam, but couldn’t be sure until I saw that you had been hit word for word with what I had. You posted the original in July 10, and I just got the second email today 11/4/10 … so its still going around.
    Much thanks, and May the Lord Bless You!
    -Bo Smith

  6. I recognize this letter I’m sorry to say. The reason is because my brother sent it to me. He now no longer talks to anyone in our family and I miss him. I however continue to send him occasional e-mails or voice messages of love and have been rebuked with this letter now 32 times ( he keeps a record). Now anger and cus words accompany the letter too. We pray that he will break free from Pastor Samples teachings and would love to welcome him home. unfortunately he has told my mom and dad that they will never see him again. He seems to really believe what is taken out of context of the rest of scripture. Making no attempt of honoring his mother or father. In fact there was an e-mail sent to “church” members with my brother from the pastor that said they would pray for my brother as his family tree fell apart. Soooo sick. Prayer, please pray for him and our family….

  7. My brother is in that cult and my mother is married to the man that claims to be Dr. AD Samples. Truth is he isn’t a doctor at all. He once had a brainwashed group following his so called beliefs but over the years all that is left of the CULT is a few people including my brother Brandon Edgar who has not talked to anyone in my family in 3 years including myself, our mother or her husband. They are all loony.

    1. **CORRECTION. My mom is married to the father of the man that claims to be Dr. Samples not married to him.

  8. This Eric Schiller has a seven year old son who he has nothing to do with. He doesnt even claim to have a son. Very sad that he is willing to jump all over everyone else for their “wrongdoings” when he is nothing but a deadbeat.

  9. Just got the same thing the other day. This guy is a wacko. He must be going after every pastor he can. Honestly, I think he if of Satan.

  10. I just got an email from this guy today. What possesses people to try to do this sort of thing with people they don’t even know is bizarre. He said he didn’t want a copy/paste answer even though it is obviously a copy/paste question, so I sent him a link 🙂

  11. I just got an email from Brandon Edgar. I had never heard of this kind of thing. I had a few friends on Facebook help me find out who he is and I landed on this post. I think he is the kind of guy you end up seeing on Fox News for shooting at college students. It’s sad. Be careful, he may end up at your doorstep if you make him mad enough.

  12. WOW! FINALLY! This whole group of people is a few bricks shy of a full load. *DR* Samples has a few peculiar practices:
    1. God “Won’t let him stop using foul language” from the pulpit because other people don’t believe God’s word.
    2. The Devil wants women to have short hair so they can mate with them. (I kid you not…)
    3. Salvation now hinges upon a proper “confession” of 1Jn 4:2
    4. The “Falling Away” of 2Thess. 2 happened on 09-24-2005 When Dr. Ruckman would not “Confess” 1Jn 4:2 (” ‘is’ come in the flesh”).
    5. He will not tell anyone where the “church” meets due to fear of receiving bodily harm (well DUH! Treat people like that and you can at least expect to have your building egg’d).
    6. If you have the stomach for it, listen to “The Dismisal of Deacon Duey”—it shows Mr. Samples core personality and the type of sycophant that attends that church.
    7. Mr. Samples believes that maintaining your health is of the Devil, because according to Mr. Samples, God want’s you to die. (Mr. Samples is a hair over 6′ 4″ and weighs 400+ lbs., he can not walk around in Walmart {by his own admission} due to his knees…of course, all this is ‘God’s will’.
    8. Russell Hamm Jr., the associate, has a equally foul mouth and disposition and has stated or insinuated that if your not “man enough”, he’ll take your wife (he then complained that older men don’t teach the younger that “art” anymore).

    More later.

    1. I have had the misfortune of knowing Russ Hamm Jr he has moved up the road from me these people are truly nuts he now lives here in Kentucky.Lynn

  13. I am a missionary that actually visited their church. My son and I got to their meeting place and they locked the doors after we came in. They also had guards posted at all the doors. I have been in the ministry for 30 years now and I have never been to a service like that. He admitted to being a supporter of the KKK after I preached or I would have left before the message. I have more stories to tell as these people have harassed me for the last 4 years now. If you want to know more or need help getting away from them write me at dougtoddfamily@yahoo.com and you can check me out at http://www.thelastfrontier.org to know I am a legitimate missionary and not a crazy.

    Dr. Doug Todd

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